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We are excited to have you as a new friend on this journey with us. Welcome to Speak Friend and Enter, a Lord of the Rings podcast. Hello, hello, welcome back. Hey. Okay, today we are doing an episode on a very, very important topic.

We, yeah, obviously one of the biggest. One that is near and dear to your heart. Near and dear to my heart. I love some good fashion. Today we are talking about the best dressed in the Lord of the Rings movies and maybe a little who's the worst dressed.

Yes, absolutely. Top five, worst five. Excellent.

I love it. I've been waiting for this conversation to hear your powerful, passionate opinions, Lydia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I will contribute as best as one who would be in the worst dressed. Tell me who my compatriots are.

I think, I think you will win over some of these people.

Some, but not all.

We'll see. We'll see. Okay. But who do we start with? Do we do like top?

I think you pick one off. I have a couple ideas for top fives. So let's kick off at least some of yours and then I'll take you.

Okay, and then we'll go down to the bottom. All right. Excellent. All right. So my top, I'm going to start off the top. I'm going to start strong and powerful. Yes. Top three top. My top five for best dressed.

I think you're going to be shocked. But this is the thing. The rest of my list, I think makes Is it the witch king of Angmar? You can't steal my thunder like that, Lydia. I'm freaking you out. Are you serious?

It is him. Okay, guys, in case you could hear.

Oh my goodness. That was a wild guess. In case you couldn't hear my speaking voice. My number one best dressed is which king of Angmar. Okay. Let me tell you why. Not on my list. The flowing gauze as they're honestly a lot of the Nazgul look real good.

Right. The flowing gauze as they're riding the horses, the black, the ominous, the hands, the hand armor when they go kink, kink, kink, kink helmet. And then that freaking helmet with the spikes.

I argue even better than Soran's helmet. And with the chain and that really epic. The flail. When the. That moment when the camera zooms in and you only see the spike and then slowly the chain clinks upwards, that is, I mean, I don't know if it's good cinematography, but it's extremely effective because you just feel it.

I'm thinking of the scene where the fel beast is dying and the wings are going all the way down and you see him rising up his mask and he turns towards you. And I just think, oh, it's elegant. It's powerful. I would want to look like that. Like that looks really good.

I'm sorry. I stole your thunder. You were completely accurate.

His armor is bomb. It's intimidating. It's it's graceful. I don't know. I really like it.

Oh my goodness. I love that. Not what I was going to.

But no, it's a winner. And I think it's really made an impression on me. I also saw someone on TikTok who kudos to their fandom. They did a pink version of the outfit. They 3D printed that mask, the horned mask. Nice. In pink.

And then they dressed themselves in pinky gauze and I was like, you're right. It slaps in any color. So that's part of the reason why it's also up there too, is it can be multi-color dimensional. I respect that.

I respect that. You don't have to like have a good black in your palette. You can make it work because no one can see your face. It's epic in any color. Okay.

It's palette neutral. Steph that's hilarious. I love that. My first, my first is Teen Frantl. From the Hobbit? Because I believe from the Hobbit.

I believe he belongs on a fashion runway. That's a good call. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Pete, we've got like the little slightly effet. Yeah. And everything is just like ever so slightly effet.

Right. So it's like, you know, you're so high fashion, you look girlish. But he's like too redaring. Like he can pull it off.

Exactly. He can pull it off, which is like, you wouldn't let most men wear this. So he's got like the really cool crown, which is really awesome. He's got the flowing tape. He's got like the dildo jacket.

When I don't remember if this is a real scene or if I'm just making this up, but I'm pretty sure the way he sits in his throne, it's like ridiculous. It looks like this. Yeah. Yeah. He looks very sprawled out. He's got like, yeah, he's sprawled. He's got the lead all crisscrossed. He rides a fricking Elk or a moose.

I'm not sure. That's a stylistic choice. I don't know. Yeah. There is no reason for it to be one of those. It's set for style. He's all about style.

Anyways, he's my fit as number one. That's really good. That's really good.

I thought we were doing a fight for him.

Oh my gosh. No, I think that's a fair number one. I agree.

But on a runway situation who would win? Which team of Admar or Thranduil? I'm not sure.

Thranduil has the face.

Which king as much as his arms slaps? Like you just need a walk. You just need a walk. Actually, can the witch king be sassy? I don't know. Which team can kill everyone in the fashion audience?

So they better go for number one. Maybe it's illegal for your intimidation. That would win it over.

There we go. That was my number one.

Oh, that's good. I like that. Okay. I feel like my list gets more boring as we go along. I started strong. But number two, this is just going to the little Stephanie when I was watching the movies, when I was like a preteen teen, and it's Arwen's dresses. Her closet. Oh, they're beautiful. Like the velvets and the soaks.

I was watching it recently and there's some dress she wears. I think it's a dream sequence with Airdorn. And I was like, whoa, that is sheer.

I don't know. I still can't tell if it's see-through or if it's like layered sheerness.

We will never know. And it's nude underneath. All I know is that there is an effect. And I remember like Airdorn says, this is a dream. I was like, yeah, it's a dream. She would never wear that outside.

She's like, it better be a dream.

Exactly. Ain't nobody better be walking around in that.

That's like ladings with no shirt. She would just fall away with the wind. I know. Anyways, but yeah, it's like, obviously she's very, very pretty. But the dresses are gorgeous.

Her dresses, every scene. And even I will say that. Yeah, they're so lovely. Okay. Yeah. So that was my number two. And I feel like not contended. Not contended. Yeah. Very classic.

My number two slightly boring ideas or maybe more standard. Boramir. I think Boramir, like I guess I'm like really into, I like in all his flashbacks as well. I liked the guard uniform.

It's really good. I think it looks really good. I think it's with the tree. I mean, it's like black, which just, it's kind of fashion. It's a very neutral, but it's got silver. It's got like beautiful details on it. I just think they look great. Their armor looks great.

So this is more like your standard man to pull this off. But it looks really good. And even his like, I'm a ranger in the fellowship type lighter armor is like a really nice look as well. I would say he has this beautiful leather. Oh, what's the ones that go on your arms?

He's got his bracelets. Yeah. Yeah. He has really beautiful leather. They're beautiful. I think Aragorn takes those and puts those on. He does. Like so. Yeah. Cause he looked at that and thought, those are too good to go over the waterfall.

So there's like things that I don't know. He has a really well put together outfit. I think he's probably the, I mean, not with face because Orlando Bloom is like a last could baby do that or hair, but in terms of outfit, the like

outfit choices, I think they're really strong. He's got like the layer jacket.

Exactly. He has the shield that kind of goes across his back. Like it looks very epic. So I like it. I like that. Okay. I feel like I'm strong on the elves and the rest of mine.

Okay. This one might, people might be like, really? But I think this goes along with Arwen because he's in so many scenes. Elrond's wardrobe is really good. Like the dude looks really good. And we see him in so many different scenes. You see him when he climbs up in his hood.

He's always wearing something different. He has this amazing like silver crown. His hair is also luscious. His headlight, his hairline might be receding, but his hair is still there. And cleaning on. I just think, I think he looks royal. His closet must be infinite. He probably gets the most outfit changes. He looks royal. Yeah. More than anyone else. Yeah. And he, yeah, he's really good. I agree.

And I think he's one of the people. So I'm going to compare to Galadriel and Gandalf. And sadly they are not in the top five. We might mention them in the, the not to be spoken section, but out of the, like, out of the wise, wizened, I am someone you come to for counsel, his outfits are the best, right? Like he's, he's got it.

All right. I will now give you my third. Sauron. Really? Which is why I was joking when I said the witch team. They mark, I was like, ah, this is a joke one. So Sauron, but not like, it's hard to say his fashion. Exactly. Because I agree. I think the witch team's helmet is cooler. But because he becomes disembodied and basically lives at the top of his tower, as an eyeball, his entire tower. Yeah. Well, I think we can encompass the entire tower. It's like, as his fashion choice, garment, robe, whatever he built the theme, right?

He was stylistically, oh, it's good. So I think like Baradour, Baradour is quite cool. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And like, obviously the ring itself is beautiful. Simple, like elegant, simple, understated, the opposite of his helmet, like his helmet is like too many flanges going on.

Yeah. But Baradour is also like me.

Yeah. He comes off different, I think. The witch team comes off very intimidating. I think Sauron comes off kind of untanny, like his proportions are wrong. He comes off very alien. Yeah. And this could be that whole Maya thing where it's like, yeah, they can put on flesh, but are they done a put on the right flesh in the wrong portions?

Do they really know what flesh is for? No. The joints are a little double jointed. Yeah.

And then, so Sauron for Baradour for like designers, I mean, I do think he has like an ability to design and also Sauron because if you've seen pictures of Sauron before, he was ugly, which you can doodle and it's like hot bam. That's a man.

Is there a ring? He's not wearing very much in those photos. So it's hard to say like, well, no, it's more like

drawings from like, I think, the lore. Fan art. And he's usually wearing like a robe. It's that. I'm like, just put on a fit fleece and call it done, you know? So I thought that was very funny.

People who have the hots for the dark lord. Amazing. I know. Okay. I love that. That's hilarious because you're not going to believe it. Sauron's eyeball was in my least best shot.

But we can talk about it.

I ignored the eyeball. That was poor design. The tower sits on his good design.

Okay. Well, we might get that one down the road. I think that's defendable. I think that makes a lot of sense. He's designed a lot of stuff and it's intimidating, but it looks good.

Yeah. I just think of Sauron as the, have you seen the like extremely sexy Lucifer statue?

Yes. I'm lying. Yes. Yes. I think I've been kind of like that. Pinterest puts that on every girl's Pinterest board. Yeah.

As, as Pinterest should. Do you know the story of the statue? So did this. I don't remember the guy's name. It wasn't Bernini because all my favorite statues are Bernini. Some other dude whose name I don't know. He was commissioned to build to, to, what's the word tarf, a statue of Lucifer. And so he, he creates the sexy statue of Lucifer that we all know.

One of them. And then the church was like, I'm sorry, this is too sexy. They did it.

Except this commission. Yes. They did. They rejected it. So they commissioned his brother to make the Lucifer statue instead and he made it even sexier. He doubled down. It's very funny. That's the story I've heard about it. Could be apocryphal.

I love it. I do. Always all the girls in church are like, you're saying he's the bad guy.

Yeah. He's like, no, we gotta do something for the ladies. Sin, I go to live with him. Church is not true anymore. Amazing. Oh my God. Yeah. So it's super funny. Okay. I think it's yours. Oh yeah.

Okay. Fourth. I am going to say this is a little bit more random, but a scene that always gets me with like, I like some of that design is when it's the second movie, Helm's Deep, and the elf army comes in and their helmets are beautiful and their archery, their bows are beautiful and their flags are made out of chiffon and I'm just like, gorgeous. That gets me.

So the elf army. And it's an extremely moving scene too because like they're coming to the rescue. Like you hear the high elf trumpet. You're like, what is this? And

I actually think their beauty does an even better job at inspiring emotion because you look at these people who are bedraggled.

They're bedraggled by war. And these poor men who are desperate. Yes. And then you have these like

luscious elves coming in straight off the runway. And so I think it does more to be like, oh my gosh, they're here for us. Right?

Like, and it just in that truely ethereal quality.

Yeah. So I think they look stunning and I love the helmets. I love, yeah.

Yeah, they look really good. Yeah, that's a winner. That's a winner. I will double down on that. I'll switch the order of one of mine because one of my favorites is Halldeer from that scene because he shows up. He's looking like a witty in his armor. His red cape.

That was exactly. I was like, I love his red cape. I also think he's attractive, but like his red cape. Barry Roman of him. I really support him. So yeah, Halldeer was number five for me. We'll come back to my other one.

Oh, okay. Do you want me? So you did number five. So let me see. If I were, well, do you have one more on the goods?

I do. I do. Okay. Do your last one and then I'll do my last one. We can switch to the bands.

So my thing is, excuse me guys, I'm just plugging in my laptop. Okay. My thing for five is I was struggling a little bit here. I had a couple of options.

There are less than five well dressed people going to read to you

like, oh boy, we're going to scrape the barrel. I actually think the cost to me, they did a really good job. But I was trying to think of things

that I could like be like, this was really something that stood out to me. I will say I also have a couple of honorable mentions. So we might want to split into there, but I didn't feel like I could give them the rank. Okay.

But this is the thing. Rohan has an aesthetic and it's rugged. And I was debating with a few people in Rohan, you know, because there's like, honestly, Thayden and his and his furs, even when he's sick, like he looks regal.

You have a one's dresses and the wind stunning, stunning. But you know, I feel like the Rohan soldier look of Aomir and the Rohirrim, especially the helmet with the horse on the nose bridge. And then it goes up and then there's like a horse mane coming out of the helmet. I just think that was good design. Like that just looked epic. It looked Rohirrim. It looked somewhat Viking early man culture-esque.

I just think Aomir and that Rohirrim vibe, I think they look good. That's really strong. I like that. Yeah, that's number five on my list. All right.

So for me, we skipped over briefly. Number four, best dressed. Kind of more of a minimalist, I would say. The ball rock. Wearing nothing but... Smoke. Wings and a whip. Oh my gosh. Don't make it sound sexual. Yeah, this is a very risque choice. He's like, I just fire and smoke.

It's so bad. But yeah, the design of the ball rod, and I know this is fashion, and so I was like, accessories, I guess. But yeah, the ball rod is just like perfect. He looks great. Just draped. If you could drape, it's like, if you had to design like a cloak or dress, you would. But like, they've dressed themselves in the smoke and flame. Yeah.

It's just really cool. The design looks great. Ball rod for me. You're right. The design looks great. The fashion is the whip, I guess. You know, and it was a choice. It was a choice. He said, what kind of weapon could I have?

Yeah, he could have summoned any fire weapon. What did he choose? The whip. And it's a vibe. It's a vibe. Who can deny it? Okay. Yep. All right. I think we have to go very quickly before we go to bottom five. I have a couple honorable mentions. And these are ones that I was like, I don't know if I can rank them, but I noticed. I noticed. I see you. I see you. Yeah. Okay. I see you.

I see you. So the first one, you might not even know who I'm talking about, but I'm pretty sure this orc is in the third movie. And he has, okay, is it baby face?

No. He has a skull hat. Do you know? Oh, yeah. The one with the stack skulls? Stack skull.

So he has his ugly face and then he has a leather cap on and then he has stack skulls. You know what? He is trying hard. You know what? I thought of that and I was like, that dude has style.

That dude has creativity. Everyone else is out there just wearing their standard armor that Sororan gave them and he said, and he's like, it's not good enough for me. I think I'll get a little spice to this outfit.

Shut up at the logins. Hey, stack some skulls on his leather cap. So all I'm saying is I see you. I see your great.

I see your effort. It's there. It's there. And I don't want to be, I don't want to be denying you your kudos because you saw something original.

So yeah, you're not wrong. There is an effect.

Yeah. And I can say there's many orcsies that I'm seeing that has that same ingenuity. So I think I just had,

I had to mention respect to skull cap guy.

Respect to skull cap guy. And then my next one's a little more conventional, but I think we're going for Rosie Kahn. She looks lovely. She has the cozy con. and at her wedding she's wearing like that beautiful Rita flowers. She just looks, looks lovely. So I'm gonna compliment. Produces an extremely cute child. Extremely cute child, just like really adorable, cozy, cozy outfiting, cozy clothing. So yeah, she gets an honorable mention as well, but. I love that. Okay, you should start. We're going to our, we're going to our bottom five.

Yeah, I will start on this one. So here's how it kind of went for me. I thought about the amazing costume design and I thought there's only, there's only one bottom five for me and it's golem all the way down.

Like all the way down. He's not trying at any level. I was like, are there other people dressed poorly? No, it is just golem. I know everyone else is wearing something appropriate for either their, their culture or their station of life or their event or even Mr. Skulltrap guy. Creativity, yeah. Yeah, golem, my man. The only reason he's not naked is because then nobody could see the movie. Yeah, so that's how I feel about that.

He, I will say he was number four.

He has been wearing that loincloth for 700 years. 600 years, however old he is.

I think those were pants and I think that's all that's. Actually, I know I'm debating. Could a pair of pants last 600 years? I don't know.

I don't know if that's possible. But there's no way like he went out and got something new. Where did he get this thing? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, so for me it's golem all the way down. Oh no. Yeah. No other contenders.

Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's hard to defend it.

It's hard. You can't. It's insensible. It's hard to defend that choice. The only defense is that he has good quads. But no man, no one wants to see Mr. Frog led. He's always using his legs in unnatural ways. I just, ugh.

The only thing I could think is that's as close as he could get to a speedo. You know, like going in and out of the water really fast.

He was like, what could be efficient for me in the water? Maybe there's a function purpose to this.

But style is not it. Style is not the purpose. Okay, I agree with that. I agree with that. I actually had a hard time doing bottom five because I do think even for people who maybe might not be in the most inspiring outfits, it still matches somewhat of the necessity or like they're who they are.

It's a correct aesthetic, right? Yeah, it's a correct aesthetic. There's also this quality of the clothing in Lord of the Rings looking very lived in, which I really appreciate because I was watching some show, I don't remember what, and it was everything looked so fake. I was like, why is it this dirty? Why is that? Where did you just buy this from? It didn't look rumpled. Yeah, exactly. It was bad.

Which I think is very valid. They did a great job with that. I never looked at something and thought that looks out of place, right? Exactly. So I hate to do it, but other than volume, there were a couple of other things in my bottom five and one of them was my main man Gandalf.

I mean, they call him Gandalf the Gray and it's not gray for nothing. He wears like dirty gray t-shirt vibes all day, every day. Like does he even have a change of Moo Moo?

Or is it the same Moo Moo? And he washes it when he bathes. Like, I don't know. If he bathes, we don't know. I'm gonna say that he bathes. That's just because you like him. Yeah, I'm gonna say that my main man can't smell. You want to believe? That he smells not like that. And so, yeah, that's my main beef. It's like he wears the same Moo Moo. What

would you do to spy Gandalf up? Do you feel like he was issued a standard? He was given like a standard issue with his robe when he departed for Arda and he never changed up.

He just never changed. You know, like I feel like he could do a nice robe with a nice gilded belt with some nice leather with some nice like... You know what?

Saruman almost made my good list. And I don't know that he dresses that differently from Gandalf, but there must be like subtle touch. But he looks clean. He looks distinguished.

And I think he might have like white on white embroidery on his garments or something. There's like a little bit of texture. There's a little bit of refinement. Stuff going on. But it's like very subtle. So it's harder to notice.

Yeah. And Gandalf's on the road. Obviously he doesn't want to be wearing something too fancy. But I'm just like, I have doubts that you wash your clothes.

Like I shouldn't have those doubts.

So he is unfortunately in my bottom five, even though I love the man. And then the only thing else I had in my bottom five, I do have a couple of potential critiques that I would love to hear your thoughts on.

But the other character in my bottom five is with Soran's eyeball. I just feel like, I don't know, wreathed in flame. Sometimes it's scary.

Sometimes it's not. I think it's hilarious that one scene at the end of the third movie when Burr-Adur is falling apart and the eyeball is looking around frantically. And it panics. And it's like, oh, oh no. And then it goes poof. And I just think, really? I don't know. Anyways, the eyeball.

That's really funny. Well, I mean, again, this is a choice by Sara. Like you're disembodied. So how do you show yourself to the world? Why do you want to be an eyeball? Yeah. I mean, it's a choice. Again, there is like strong motif, I think, for it. Because then your soldiers can easily carve little eyeballs on their shields and stuff. Like there's motif and probably some kind of symbology. Probably if we looked at some Egyptian mythology, we would know more.

What are they always doing with that pyramid with the eyeball? I don't know. Oh. So I guess maybe that's what it's hard to name back to. But yeah, like I don't know. I guess I would just be disembodied. But maybe his troops need a visible reminder that he's there.

Otherwise, they'll forget. OK, this is the thing. I was in an ethical business class, or professional responsibility class this last week. And they said that if you put someone in a room and give them a test and give them the opportunity to cheat and then say, OK, how many people cheated.

And then you put them in the same room with the same test, giving them the opportunity to cheat, but put a poster with an eyeball on it, fewer people cheat. So honestly, maybe my man, Soran, has been to business school. And he said, I'm just a good manager.

I would be the eyeball. No posters for me. I'm just a good manager. We are decreasing the amount of disorderly behavior and not listening to policy. I am HR. Awesome. Awesome.

Yeah, I love that. So it's not the prettiest looking thing, but maybe it is effective. Maybe it's effective.

So yeah, that's a thought about the

unlike Gollum's alone cloth, which is not a pretty more effective.

So bad. But I prefer you have it versus nothing. So if I have to give the man kudos in any way that is that. There is that. OK, two comments, which I'm curious your thoughts on. So gladrile in the movies and then in the Hobbit movies, Lord of the Rings. She has a beautiful white dress when she first comes out, I think, with with her hubby. I forget his name. Caleb Brown? No, that's not him. I forget.

Celebrate. Anyways, I think I think it is him. I can't remember. But she comes out with her hubby. She's in a beautiful white dress. I think she looks great. Then she has a dress on for when she looks in the mirror. And then in the Hobbit, she's in like this blue dress thing.

And I did not remember her from the hobbit. I'm going to look it up real fast.

Oh, I see what you're saying. My heart take is I think they did Arwen better than they did gladrile and gladrile. I feel like it's supposed to be this like. I don't know. Glorious as a God kind of thing. Yes, I see what you're saying.

I will say yes to Arwen. But I think that's because the blue dress, if I'm looking at it right now, and we were only really getting it looks like it's a nighttime scene. We're not able to see the details of it. So it could have these amazing details that were missing. But it's just like pretty long and close.

Why doesn't this? OK, this is my beef with it. If we're looking at the same one from the hobbit, it looks like she's wearing a white T-shirt

and then I was about to say that next dress on top of the white shirt. Yes, agreed. I was about to say. I was like, I am not loving the white T-shirt look. Yeah, her and obviously in Lord of the Rings proper is like, whoa.

So I don't know. I just feel like I'm going to look up the scene with her in the middle.

It's it's middle of the road. It's not like a fashion crime, but like there is something about that contrast between like the underlayer and the overlayer that isn't as good, I would say.

I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. And it's hard because they glowed her up so much in the Lord of the Rings scene. They have a so glowy that I can't really tell much of the detail on her dresses. But I just I have this nagging feeling that they did Arwen better than they dress Galadriel and Galadriel is supposed to be like this God almost. And I just think they could have they could have pulled it out a little more.

Anyways, you know what? I'm looking. I think it might not be the fault of the dress even. So I'm looking at this picture here. I don't know if I can send it to you, but there is a picture here where it's showing a statue of Galadriel of the White Council, you know, during the habit. It might be the coloring that they chose. It might be that made it look blue because in the statue, it's a gray dress with a bit of a white undercloth and without the light with less contrast, it looks much better.

Maybe maybe the editors did the costume designers dirty. I'm just saying Galadriel potentially. I'm not picking up on the.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, I'm here. I see. Yeah. See if you can.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's almost like a light. Much better is the the brown neck piece.

Yeah, much better. And I like the towel net, which is not.

You can't even see that it's a town that's a photo. It just looks like a T-shirt. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I bet it was lighting. That might be it. Let's blame them.

But I just think it was perfect. Yeah, go. Oh, Kate Blanche. Oh, my gosh. So good. So good. Yeah. So I love her. I just feel like maybe they could have pulled it out more for the dresses or the editing could have been a chasted. OK, last comment that I have when I was thinking about stuff that I could potentially critique. OK, Aragorn's Aragorn's coordination.

Are you about to say he's not perfect in any way? I want to say his gold statement.

And then when they when he marches to the front gate, there's a little bit of like, this is crazy. But you know how people comment about how in Beauty and the Beast, some people were like disappointed when the beast turned into the prince and they were like, you're actually not that hot.

OK, so Aragorn, I think looks better as a ranger and at the coronation and at the final battle where he has his hair pulled back and like a very neat do before he goes to face the eyeball. I just don't think it's is not given as much to me.

I see. That's funny. So at the coronation, too, he looks pretty good. You know what? I will fight you on this because I actually like his look in the coronation. I feel like at last my man has put on a clean pair. Yeah, this year. OK, coordination.

Fine. What about the last one? But yeah, the battle.

I don't like him. He's half up. Up.

Yeah, let's see. Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. It is kind of a it's kind of late in the movie to get a hairstyle change.

I don't know. I was just thinking that something a jar is me is seeing him so fancy again. But that's probably just my own personal preference.

I think let's see. Does he never wear the half half up except for his hair is always down. I do like his hair down. You're right. There's a lot of good work there. Eric Ward at Helms Deep is probably my favorite. Eric Ward. There's just like a good photo of him there. Well, lit.

Oh, that's the one where he goes to the goes to the doors. That's like the iconic.

Yeah, pretty good. So yeah, I'm with you. I like his hair down half up. It's a small demerit, but I I like the coronation one. And maybe it's because the crown works really well. They did a good job on the crown. Yeah, but I agree. The black gates is not his best look.

I just feel like I'm so used to him and his ruggedy, ruggedy. It's weird to me to see him all clean and spruced.

That's funny. That should be my strategy. Then I can always do reddity, reddity and never have to be spruced. It will be like some things not quite right.

I don't know. I don't know how you were. OK, but that is all. That is all commentary I had. Did you have what we need to hear? We need to hear more from you.

What do you have? I don't think I have anything else. I had top fives. Those were pretty strong for me. And then, like I said, as soon as I thought about the bottom fives, my mind was just wiped and all I could think about was golem. There are also some really unpleasant troll loincloths as well. Oh, yeah.

So yeah, overall, I would say like orc fashion, not my favorite. There are. There is one orc who I guess I'll give him an honorable mention. I think this is one at Helmspeep. Right as the orcs are all drumming everything and they're starting to do little small battle chance, but not the bid one yet. There's an orc who's got a special helmet that has like jaws that stick out and he makes a really cool noise when he blows through it. I think that guy's cool. It's like almost a fog horn sort of effect. The horn. Yeah, it's just like the style on his helmet is different looking. Is there anyone else? Yeah, I can't think of anyone else. I think.

I think the hobbits look very standard. I think the fellowship of ring, they look kind of standard of the hobbits.

Of the hobbits, Frodo obviously has the best clothes. I think you're right. Like his are always like noticeably slightly fat, like slightly better quality, like different textures, like felids instead of, I don't know what else they're wearing, linens and cons.

That's a daily. Yeah, so I think that in bad, who else is bad? It's just golem time is gone first. Oh, OK. Wormton is not in the bad fashion. He's got a bad face and bad attitude. No, he has oily hair.

He needs to wash.

Yeah, but his fashion is fine. Like, yeah, I actually was thinking about that when I was going through the list of bad. I was like, it's not even warm ton. He's got like that nice for a cape. He dresses well. He's got like the cloak. He dresses well. And if he were like not who he was and if he looked a lot different than he did.

I would totally ship him with it. He's not a different person, but just the same clothes.

Yes, we do put his clothes on somebody else. And like, yeah, that's acceptable.

OK, Denethor. Anybody else has a pretty. I mean, he's a steward, but he looks pretty clean, pretty classic.

Yeah. He's not winning any prizes, I think. But like if you're keen, whose job is sitting in the cold throne room? I think you're allowed to have a fur robe. Like it's not quite a bathroom. Um, actually, I think you did.

You know, I don't love the gray, the gray lining on it. I feel like if it's going to be black, I feel like it should be black. You want to be black and black? Yeah, black on black black.

Is yeah, I guess my other like honorable mention is Saruman, who I think comes off as very stylish for whatever reason.

And to the point of the film directors, the more that he gets involved with following Soramon, no, Soramon. Oh, you were talking about Soron or Soramon? Sorry.

Oh, Soramon. I think Soramon comes off as fashionable.

The more that Soramon gets involved with following Soron, he gets more dingy. I think you're right.

His clothes get more dingy. And so I think that's actually a really good point because at the beginning he's crisp, right, when he's talking to Gandalf. Yeah. And he looks crisp. And then the longer he's he's handling things.

Yeah, it's like kind of falls to the wayside. He starts to carry about other things.

And I think it's also supposed to show a little bit of his falling from his mantle as being a white wizard. So they're trying to visualize that.

I guess we should also like I will also honorable mention Lettuce. But it's hard to mention him because I don't think he's this is this is one of those difficult situations where it's like, do I like the clothes or is he just handsome person just right. And you can never tell because I think he is doing basic, basic wood folk elf. Yeah.

Stuff. He's not doing anything special. So maybe he should get a demerit.

Maybe he should be in bottom five somewhere. He's like, sir, you are grand to some special features and you're not living up to your potential by also accentuating them with high fashion. Actually, he must be a huge disappointment. He looks good at the coronation. Oh, let me look him up there.

Is it Frandle, his father knows his daddy. OK, OK. So wait a minute. That means that means that this is a statement. Right. Like Legolas is going to dense his roots.

He's like, you might be maximum. My dad's way too into fashion. I'm a minimalist.

That's right. This is like his teenager rebellion. I love that. Very funny. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. That's all I've got. Overall, I mean, the costuming in this movie is just stunning.

So good. And I think I didn't I did give credit to A.O. and dresses at some point, but they blow in the wind. Just like magic. They're awesome. Uh-huh.

And and like, I don't know if you've seen the behind the scenes recently. There is some there's a decent amount of time spent on the costume. And just like the still of those people. They really flexed. They really flexed on this one. It was wonderful. It was all very, very good. OK.

Well, now you know our opinions. Best dressed, worst dressed, somewhere in between. And then there's golem who's completely off the spectrum.

Yes, exactly. That outlier sounds good.

Oh my goodness. Well, thank you so much. This is so fun. And we'll catch you next time. All right. Take care.

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